Hi Guys,
When reviewing the Secrets of Stretching DVD.
Am I right in saying that Deadlifts are the next step up from Good Morning lifts, and how are they better?.
Would I benefit from doing both in my routine as once I’m at the stage where I can do Deadlifts are Good Morning Lifts still required.
Good Morning lift vs Deadlift
Re: Good Morning lift vs Deadlift
This is from Article 19 (http://www.stadion.com/column_stretch19.html):
"When the weight of the bar reaches 2/3 of your body weight, it will become risky to do good mornings. From that point on, the further strengthening of your lower back will be done mainly with deadlifts . . ."
From Article 21: "Both these lifts are very similar to movements that happen in everyday life and in fighting. The good morning is similar to taking something heavy on your shoulders, straightening up, and then putting it down—like loading and unloading bags of flour. A deadlift is what you do when you lift something heavy off the ground." Also: "Do these at the end of your strength workout, deadlifts before good mornings. After the good mornings you can do abdomen crunches. Sit-ups and other hip flexor exercises fit better before the deadlifts."
Don't know that one should say "better." Judging from the text above, though, they permit heavier weight, and the movement is slightly different from the goodmorning.
I'm guessing Kurz would say experiment and see if the combination improves your strength beyond marginal increases.
"When the weight of the bar reaches 2/3 of your body weight, it will become risky to do good mornings. From that point on, the further strengthening of your lower back will be done mainly with deadlifts . . ."
From Article 21: "Both these lifts are very similar to movements that happen in everyday life and in fighting. The good morning is similar to taking something heavy on your shoulders, straightening up, and then putting it down—like loading and unloading bags of flour. A deadlift is what you do when you lift something heavy off the ground." Also: "Do these at the end of your strength workout, deadlifts before good mornings. After the good mornings you can do abdomen crunches. Sit-ups and other hip flexor exercises fit better before the deadlifts."
dcclarke wrote:how are [deadlifts] better [than goodmornings].
Don't know that one should say "better." Judging from the text above, though, they permit heavier weight, and the movement is slightly different from the goodmorning.
dcclarke wrote:Would I benefit from doing both in my routine
I'm guessing Kurz would say experiment and see if the combination improves your strength beyond marginal increases.
Not required, but as above you may wish to experiment; not recommended if the weight necessary for improvement is 2/3 of your bodyweight or more.dcclarke wrote:Once I’m at the stage where I can do Deadlifts, are Good Morning Lifts still required.
Re: Good Morning lift vs Deadlift
Thank you for the detailed response CSta 
Re: Good Morning lift vs Deadlift
I think good mornings look pretty cool, I always figured the main benefit to a deadlift was the lack of compression of the skin back there which would be uncomfortable, also being able to ditch/drop the weight.
Good mornings are suited for lighter weight stuff like, if you were doing a stiff-legged version for flexibility which is how it's designed anyway.
The center of gravity is higher in this (just like a back or front squat has a higher center than a trap bar squat/deadlift) so it requires more stabilization ability.
Good mornings are suited for lighter weight stuff like, if you were doing a stiff-legged version for flexibility which is how it's designed anyway.
The center of gravity is higher in this (just like a back or front squat has a higher center than a trap bar squat/deadlift) so it requires more stabilization ability.